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Need help with root motion

Harald

@Hivon_P Sorry to hear you're having troubles. Which exact version of the spine-unity runtime (name of the unitypackage, also listed in Assets/Spine/version.txt, or in the Package Manager) are you using?

Could you show your skeleton's bone hierarchy above and below your yao rootmotion-bone (e.g. a screenshot of the Tree view in Spine).

Hivon_P

Harald I'm glad that you replied. Here's the imformation you addressed:
spine-unity runtime version: spine-unity-4.2-2024-08-08.unitypackage
unity version 2022.3.17

Hivon_P

Harald sorry that I forget bone hierarchy below 'yao', I'll post it again if it matters.

Harald

@Hivon_P I would not ask for it if it were irrelevant.

The main question is whether your root-motion bone yao has any local movement in relation to its parent bone (jue_all), either via applied animations or via transform constraints. If that is not the case, no root motion movement will be picked up.

Hivon_P

Harald I apologize if I sound rude.

And thank you for point out the problem. I think I misunderstand the concept of root motion, only local movement will be picked up, rather than relative position to the actual root bone. The animations I was provided with, some of them were moving by 'yao' , some were by 'jue_all', and some were combined. So is there a way I can use 'yao' as root motion bone relative to the actual root?

Harald

Hivon_P I apologize if I sound rude.

No need to apologize! 😀

Hivon_P So is there a way I can use 'yao' as root motion bone relative to the actual root?

You can use a Transform Constraint to always let an additional root-motion bone follow your yao bone's location, and make this root-motion a child of root. This way your root-motion bone follows the yao bone but contains all (cumulated) movement itself, in relation to its parent.

Hivon_P

Harald
Hi, I've tried the way you suggested, but the result isn't what I expecting. My goal is to find a way to root motion X position between unity's gameobject and the character body when ever there's animation moment applied to the body, and can stay at the new position when mixing to original pose. When I try this way, when animation applied, the root bone was driven away and the root-motion bone(a child bone of root bone which was transform constrainted to 'yao') stays still.

Harald

Hivon_P When I try this way, when animation applied, the root bone was driven away and the root-motion bone(a child bone of root bone which was transform constrainted to 'yao') stays still.

This is exactly what root motion is for, it subtracts motion from the root-motion bone and adds it to the GameObject Transform instead. Thus it effectively moves all other bones (including root) back if root-motion was moving forward in your animation. Or did you mean something else?

Hivon_P

Harald
I ‘m sorry if I misexpress myself.
I do mean something else. The problem I had with this approach is that, the delta moment of the root motion bone didn’t apply to the GameObject, so the GameObject stays in the same world position along with the root motion bone whatever animation applied, while root bone is visually moving towards the opposite direction. Shouldn’t it be contrary?

Harald

Hivon_P Sorry I misunderstood you there. Could you please send us a minimal Unity project which still shows your issue? You can send it as a zip file to contact@esotericsoftware.com, briefly mentioning this forum thread URL so that we know the context. Then we can have a look at it.

Hivon_P

Harald Sorry for the long pause, I was assigned with someother task. Anyway, about my issue, your answer has straighten out my thoughts, thanks for that. All I need to do is to fix all the animation and make sure the main movement is relative to the rootmotion bone.

Harald

@Hivon_P No need to apologize, thanks for getting back to us. Glad it helped.