Ghosting options

Bborleech · 17 мар 2024

Hi guys,

i don't know if it is a bug or not, but I have noticed it, so i will share it:

When i setup/prepare some ghosting parameters as in Sinisa's "Arc" tutorial video to detect the bone motion via a small circle and then close and reopen spine again, the settings are not saved.

I chose the following options for the "motion detect" bone:

The options for the 2 buttons ("only show ghosting for the selction" and "prevent ghosting items from changing the selction") won't be saved. I understand when i reopen spine there is no selection, but i had expected the selection is still on the same bone, when the "lock"-button is active and the project was saved.

It's only a little bit annoying, when you open a large spine project with a lot of assets and the ghosting is still active, the complete project is blue (in my case because of ghosting setup) and you need to find first the right bone for the ghosting again.

Let me know your thoughts.

By the way: The Arc-tracker tip was mind blowing for me. You can detect/correct so many timing and spacing issues with it. For me it is like new feature of 4.2.

Regards

Spinebot · 17 мар 2024

Hi there,

It seems like the behavior you're experiencing with ghosting settings not being saved upon closing and reopening Spine is not explicitly addressed as a feature or bug in the provided contexts. However, based on the information about ghosting and settings in Spine, it's important to note that Spine does save certain preferences and project-specific settings, but some settings, especially those related to the selection and visual aids like ghosting, might not persist across sessions because they are considered temporary or session-specific. The "lock" button you mentioned is likely intended to lock the selection for the duration of your current session rather than saving the selection state between sessions.

For the issue of having to reselect the bone for ghosting upon reopening a project, it's a valid point of feedback. While Spine aims to streamline the animation workflow, including the use of ghosting for motion analysis, it seems there might be room for improvement in how selection and ghosting preferences are managed across sessions. Your appreciation for the Arc-tracker tip and its impact on your animation workflow is great to hear! It's feedback like yours that helps drive the continuous improvement of Spine.

Bborleech · 17 мар 2024

WTF? How did you train this Spinebot? That was nearly a perfect answer or did you locked up somebody to do it?

Nate · 17 мар 2024

In general the lock features (ghosting, dopesheet or graph rows, bones in the weights view, etc) are only for the currently running instance of Spine and are lost when the app is restarted. That seems OK for the dopesheet and graph. For ghosting I can see it being a little annoying when re-opening a project. However, ghosting is annoying in general when opening a project (for example a different project), and so I tend to try to remember to turn it off.

It's great you found the arc tips useful! Ghosting only the selection has actually been a feature for a long time.

Nate · 17 мар 2024

borleech Haha, Spinebot is pretty amazing! We're a small team so having Spinebot help out frees up some of our time, at least for easy questions. It also gets people a response right away, which sometimes helps until we can reply. It's trained on all our data sources and usually does a surprisingly good job of giving correct information. The key is to provide high quality data sources to minimize how much it needs to "improvise" (ie make things up).