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CSP to Spine

Nick

agree.

csp is cheap and powerful for most drawing scenarios.

If Krita export script is as good as photoshop one, I think I will unsubscribe photoshop too.

Nate

This enhancement issue is relevant:
Import full frame PNG files as attachments · #476 · EsotericSoftware/spine-editor
If we can support bringing full frame images into Spine, then it will likely be easy to export from CSP and other image editing tools and still have all the power of the Photoshop script. This would be great because I also feel that Photoshop is a bit of a pig in many ways. :wounded:

IndieDoroid

Nate написал
Photoshop is a bit of a pig in many ways. :wounded:

Exactly. We all need to make a statement and move away from PS and all Adobe subscription products :sucks:

Pharan написал
I totally agree that a CSP exporter would be fantastic. For many (but not all) styles, it's a good choice of illustration software and saves a lot of time, and is much more affordable compared to a CC subscription.

To summarize the current situation:

The latest Clip Studio Paint doesn't have any scripting API, like jsx for Photoshop.

We did contact them. They gave us the rest of the info:

They only have a plugin API, but it only functions through a single selected layer and isn't able to do stuff like export or write to disk.

Their SDK is Japanese and CELSYS (the company) doesn't provide support of the SDK in English. Clip Studio Paint JP has also been a bit ahead compared to the international versions, hence not being able to guarantee certain things.

In short: we can't right now. But this may change in future Clip Studio Paint versions.

If you are interested in this feature, let them know so they know people actually need it.
You can email them CELSYS User Support <tech @ celsys.co.jp>
or contact them through their contact page https://www.clipstudio.net/en/contact
or through their CLIP STUDIO ASK page.

Note that their support staff is Japanese but they'll be able to understand some good English. Just avoid overly idiomatic and flowery language, I guess.

Just to add, the workaround currently available is to intermediately save your Clip Studio Paint file as a PSD, and then export through Photoshop using the Photoshop script.

@Pharan

Sorry for resurrecting this thread.

But I'm going to email CELSYS per your feature requests, what exactly should we be writing?

I'm not a programmer :confused:

Also is it possible to use this pipeline? Clip Paint Save PSD ~> Krita (use export to Spine script)

Thanks!

Nate

We need the ability to write a plugin that can export layers as whitespace stripped PNGs, as well as write some JSON data that describes the position of the layers. In addition to a description like that, they could look at the Spine Photoshop script to see exactly what it does.

Nick

IndieDoroid написал
But I'm going to email CELSYS per your feature requests, what exactly should we be writing?

I wrote a message to them a year ago. IMO, they just don't want to spend resources on this matter.

IndieDoroid написал
Also is it possible to use this pipeline? Clip Paint Save PSD ~> Krita (use export to Spine script)

As I could remember, Krita has problem reading PSD clipping mask correctly. If you want to go this indirect route, there is a better chance using Affinity Photo/Designer but its script seems broken. At least the last time I tried it, doesn't work.

Another issue is that, when you "save as" PSD in CSP and you forget to save back to CLIP format then keep updating the illustration, you lose some CSP specific file format features after closed the CSP app. The behavior is a little different from PS that when you save as other format, it still think the file has unsaved changes and remind you to save the PSD format version.

I also tried to coded a standalone PSD to Spine Export app specifically for use with CSP using some 3rd party PSD SDK sometimes ago but just found that the PSD output from CSP is a little different than normal PSD. The app can't open it natively unless I open and re-save it in PS. Its very sad for the CSP situation.

pixelmeat

Hey, sorry to resurrect such and old thread, but I was wondering if there's been any steps in the CSP to Spine direction in the last 4 years. Maybe there's hope with the 4.2 improvements and Spine being able to import PSD files without an external script? I really don't know what I'm talking about, just crossing my fingers and asking 🙂

Davide

pixelmeat

You can simply export your file as a PSD from CSP and import it into Spine. Is there anything preventing you from doing so?

pixelmeat

Davide No, nothing is preventing me. Is there any limitation to this method? I mean, can I expect all the features in CSP to be correctly exported into the PSD, like masks, for example?

Harald

@pixelmeat You might want to have a look at the 4.2 release blog post below, great new features have been added in 4.2:
https://esotericsoftware.com/blog/Spine-4.2-The-physics-revolution

Davide

pixelmeat

Unfortunately, I don't own CSP, but we have some users who use CSP and import their work into Spine by exporting the file as PSD. I believe masks are supported, but if there are features of CSP that do not exist in PS or that are not stored into the PSD by CSP, these won't be imported into Spine.

In any case, CSP developers still do not allow making plugins for non-JP versions of CSP.

Erika

Hi! I have CSP and just tested the Save as... PSD to create a PSD for Spine.
The warning you get is this:

where it of course says that any of the special layers used by CSP will be rasterized, and because they are not compatible with the PSD format, this data is lost.
I have then tried to import this to Spine and the generated PSD could be imported.
I recommend merging some layers before exporting if the result is too different, but I confirm that masks were honored, text was rasterized, and everything looked pretty much like in CSP from this quick test!

pixelmeat

Erika Thank you so much for taking the time to test this! I'm the animator and game designer in my team, so not the actual CSP user, but I'll relay this info to my art director and I'm sure she'll find the way to make it work.
Thanks again!